[FRA:] recent reading in critical theory

[stevedevos at krokodile.co.uk]

Fred,

That's not the relationship that is contained in the Benjamin/Adorno 
letters,  in the letters it is quite apparant that they are very good 
friends, who are trapped in social circumstances completely outside of 
their control....

huuuum as for 'non-christian tone'  hardly a relevant phrase is it - 
given the circumstances they were living through and their actual social 
backgrounds.

best

steve

chaney525 wrote:

>I thought it was very clear that Benjamin needed Adorno's practical
>help and did not get any.  I could be wrong, I could be projecting, but
>it seems to me that Buck-Morss is pointing out that their relationship
>was not that useful.  Also, calling it Negative, seemed to me to be a
>reflection of the non-christian tone of their relationship, the moral
>climate surrounding Benjamin, and the resulting tragedy.  Where there
>was hope, there was nothing practical.  FredW
>
>--- Ralph Dumain <rdumain at igc.org> wrote:
>
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>
>>Even though I just read this book, my memory has already faded.  But
>>I 
>>don't quite recognize what either of you fellows have suggested. 
>>Benjamin 
>>cozied up to Brecht, though he was far more esoteric a thinker, and
>>Adorno 
>>rejected Brecht's conception of art.  Does this entail "caught
>>between"?  I 
>>don't know exactly what this means.
>>
>>As for Adorno failing Benjamin, I don't know what this means, 
>>either.  Benjamin seems to have been Adorno's major influence, but
>>Adorno 
>>objected to what he saw as Benjamin's lapses, which is also what he 
>>objected to in surrealism: the lack of a theoretical mediation beyond
>>the 
>>description and juxtaposition of constellated phenomena.  Adorno
>>would have 
>>thought, I suppose, that Benjamin failed him.  But I don't quite know
>>what 
>>you are getting at.
>>
>>At 08:33 AM 4/27/2006 -0400, James Rovira wrote:
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>>
>>>Didn't Buck-Morss present Benjamin as caught between Brecht, the
>>>doctrinaire communist, and Adorno, the critical theorist?  Or is
>>>      
>>>
>>that
>>    
>>
>>>Martin Jay?
>>>
>>>Jim R.
>>>      
>>>
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