Vs: Re: any result, lacanians - marxistphilosophy

[James Rovira]

I don't understand the basis of these demands.  Europe wanted US bases 
during the Cold War so it didn't have to pay for its own defense during 
its reconstruction, and the US wanted these bases to keep the Soviet 
Union from rolling across Europe. During the reunification of Germany 
most of the rest of Europe were insisting that the US retain its base in 
Germany and continue to give Germany privileged trading status.  The 
presence of US troops in Europe is beneficial to the host countries 
economically and militarily.  I think the US should be closing European 
bases too, but for no one's sake but its own.  We have a huge national 
debt and continue deficit spending that can't be brought under control 
any other way than a reduction in military spending, and we're past the 
Cold War period so they have served their purpose.

Also, to my knowledge, the Baath Party took control of Iraq via 
assassination and force in the 1950s.  Hussein rose to his current 
(former) position within the Baath Party in 1979.  What's this about 
1968?  I don't think Iraq has had a representative government in at 
least 50 years, but I admit to holes in my knowledge of Iraqi history. 
 Even if a return to the government of 1968 was desirable, it's 
literally impossible at this point for the reasons mentioned below.  

Jim  

pickled cucumber wrote:

> Dear Mr. Huttunen, you postulated:
>
>> Jep. US should withdraw its troop and regime of 1968 should restore in
>> Iraq.
>
>
> Don't you think it would be somewhat unfair to drag these people
> out of their rocking chairs, and away from their great-grandchildren,
> and press them into political service?  And is this what the Iraqis
> want - a restoration of a regime from over 30 years ago?
>
>> And further more US should withdraw its troops from Europe too and
>> mercifully give to Europe its true independence which is sovereignty
>> in defence affairs.
>
>
> By that token the true independence of France, Belgium, Poland,
> Austria, Czechoslovakia, etc., would have demanded that they remain
> under the occupation of Nazi Germany.  I am not saying this is not so
> - perhaps it is exactly what they would deserve.   I just wish to
> ensure that we are on the same wavelength.
>
> PC