[Nomic] Summary of Proposals 2
John-Joseph Wilks
nomic-talk at srcf.ucam.org
Thu Sep 23 15:35:01 2004
The following proposals appear to exist, in these forms, and I believe these
to be the votes people have cast on them, though I'm not bothering to list
ones completely rewritten or with more than a couple of Nays.
1. Remove all text after the word 'world' from Rule 3, List of Voters.
Ayes: Maz, JJ, Mike, Stumo, adam, Martin, dok
Nays:
2: Create a rule called the Rule of Handles, with the following text:
There shall be a list of {real name, pseudonym} pairs; with one
entry for each member of the List of Voters. Initially the pseudonym entry
in
each pair will be unset. At any time a player with an unset pseudonym
may set their pseudonym to any legal string, provided that that string
isn't lexically equivalent to any game entity, player's real name or
player's pseudonym. If a player has a non-null pseudonym set then
their pseudonym and their real name may be used interchangably within
the context of the game. This List shall be called the List of Handles.
Ayes: Maz, JJ, Mike, Madeleine, Martin, dok, Stumo, adam
3. Create a rule called the Rule of Structured Names, with the following
text:
Each rule shall have a name that is a string of the form 'Rule X, Y'. In
this string, X stands for an integer which is assigned to the rule when it
is added to the ruleset and is one greater than the largest integer
currently assigned to any rule. Y shall stand for any string of
alphanumeric characters, spaces and punctuation which is distinct up to
changes to case and spacing from the Y of any other rule in the rules.
X is assigned only when a rule is added to the rules; Y must be specified
along with the text of the rule when it is first proposed. All rules, when
referring to other rules, must use the full name of the rule in question,
excepting the following case: Where a rule is still a proposal, it may be
referred to only by its alphanumeric designator Y. If that rule is then
adopted, the gamestate shall be modified so that all references to that rule
reference the full name instead.
When this rule is brought into effect, the names of all existing rules shall
be modified to bring them into line with this format.
Ayes: Maz, JJ, Mike, Madeleine, Stumo, adam, Martin, dok
Nays:
4. The Law of Lizardmen. This is a pair of linked suggestions taking one the
following form:
The Rule of Autoadoption:
Any entities which are elegible to be members of the List of Voters
may join the game providing that the following conditions are satisfied:
1) They have subscribed to the mailing list (if there is one).
2) They are not already in the List of Voters.
3) They have made a post to the mailing list declaring that:
a) All of 1-3 are satisfied.
b) They are not a lizardman from Antares IV.
c) They wish to join the game.
Once these events have happened then they are added to the List of
Voters, and are deemed to have joined the game. Their consent is not
needed on any issues that require consent that are under consideration
at the time of their joining the game.
A Planet? Where Lizards evolved from Men?
All entities eligible to be members of the List Of Voters (Which shall be
all living extranomic entities of the species Homo Sapiens Sapiens) shall be
considered to be lizardmen from Antares IV until a member of the List Of
Voters states "I do not believe <name of entity> is a lizardman from
Antares IV", where "<name of entity>" is to be replaced with the name of the
entity in question. No existing member of the List Of Voters is a lizardman
from Antares IV.
Ayes: Martin, adam, Maz, JJ
5. The Rule of Assumed Consent
The current form of this is as follows:
A player shall be considered to have given their consent to a proposal if
the following are true:
The proposal was suggested more than 72 hours ago, and they haven't
explicitly expressed a lack of consent.
Ayes: Maz, JJ
6: The Law of Lexicography
There shall be a dictionary, called the Definitions Dictionary, which
shall be kept up-to-date with all game terms. The definitions given
in the definitions dictionary superceed the usual english meaning of
terms; but are overriden by explicit rules wording.
Ayes: Maz, Mike, Madeleine, Stumo, Martin
Not well enough defined: JJ, adam
7:The Existence of the Council
There shall exist the Great Council of the Elder Turtles, which shall
contain a number of Posts. Each Post shall consist of a Title, which can be
assigned a member of the List of Voters, and a list of duties which the
member holding that Post should perform. Failure on the part of that member
to perform these duties shall make them guilty of the crime of
(This proposal has been reworded to remove some of the objections)
Aye: JJ
Withheld: Maz, Stumo, Martin
Nay: ahdok (But surely we're going to need some way to assign things to
people? ed.)
8: The 'Exception that proves the' Rule:
A rule may override another rule if and only if it mentions that rule by
name. The only exception is this rule, which overrides all others,
except those which mention it by name.
Ayes: Maz, JJ, Martin, adam, dok
9: Alter the text of Rule 4, Concensus of Opinion from:
A Consensus of Opinion on a particular change to the rules exists when one
entity named on the List of Voters proposes the change to all other entities
named on the List of Voters and obtains unambiguous consent to that change
from each such entity.
to:
A Consensus of Opinion on a particular issue exists when one entity named on
the List of Voters makes a proposal describing the issue to all other
entities named on the List of Voters, obtains unambiguous consent to that
proposal from each such entity and then posts a public Notice of Consensus
to the other members detailing the issue upon which Consensus of Opinion has
been reached.
Ayes: JJ, dok, adam, Mike, Stumo, Martin, Maz
10: Create a rule as follows, called the Rule of Girls:
Notices of Consensus are considered to be printed on coloured paper. Any
electronic document purporting to be a Notice of Consensus is only deemed to
be so if it clearly describes what colour paper it is printed on.
Ayes: dok, JJ, adam, Mike, Martin, Maz
11: The Rule of Self-Image
The game shall have a name, which shall be "Terrapin Nomic".
Ayes: JJ, adam, dok, Mike, Martin
12: Create a rule named The Rule of Conflict with the following text:
If a Judgement Procedure as defined by the rules determines that two or more
rules are in conflict and that it it not clear from the rules which of them
should take precedence, the entity which initiated that Judgement Procedure
may create and publically present a Conflict Resolution Roadmap.
A Conflict Resolution Roadmap is a document which describes changes to the
rules intended solely to remove the conflict in question. Once a CRR has
been presented, the changes it describes will take effect on the rules. Any
changes described by a Conflict Resolution Roadmap which have effects other
than to resolve the conflict the Roadmap was created to address will not be
applied and the creator of the Roadmap will be guilty of the crime of
Deviousness.
Ayes: JJ, dok, adam, Mike, Stumo, Martin
13: Create a rule named And There Shall Be No Lizardmen, with the following
text:
Any entity which is a member of the List of Voters may cause itself to be
immediately removed from the List of Voters by publically announcing itself
to be a lizardman from Antares IV. The entity in question is encouraged to
use this opportunity to mock the puny humans for their pathetic inability to
see the truth until it was too late.
Ayes: JJ, dok, adam, Mike, Stumo, Martin
14: The Law of Total Annihilation
"Should thirteen paradoxes be discovered to exist simultaneously, the nomic
game ends, and the voters must lament having destroyed the universe by
trying to be too clever."
Ayes: dok
Nay: JJ (pending description of how a paradox is actually defined,
especially whether you want it to be only within the rules)
15: Create a rule named Keeping Up With the Nomeses, with the following
text:
There shall be a role entitled "Data Integrity Consultant" to be filled by a
member of the List of Voters, who is to investigate an automatic on-line
method of storing and cataloguing Proposals, Counter-Proposals and Consent.
This role can later be incorporated into a Committee post if such a body is
created.
Ayes: JJ, Mike, Stumo, dok
16: I'm Not a Window Cleaner
The entity Mike Cripps shall be the first holder of the role of Data
Integrity Consultant, and shall be immediately appointed to that role if it
exists when this rule is passed, assuming in both cases that the entity Mike
Cripps is a member of the List of Voters
Ayes: JJ, Mike, Stumo, dok
17: I propose that I just lost "The Game"
Ayes: Stumo, Maz, JJ
18: On the Numbering of Proposals
Each proposal shall be numbered by its proposer. These numbers shall be
sequential integers beginning from 1 for the first proposal after this rule.
Counter-proposals to a proposal N should be numbered Na, Nb, Nc etc.
Nay: adam (on the basis that two proposals may be cross-posted with the same
number. Workaround counterproposals are invited)
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