[FRA:] Zizek & Koenigsberg on The Matrix, Human Batteries & the Symbolic Ord

[matthew piscioneri]

Jim,
 
thanks for the response and explanations...very helpful :-). So, is this the basis of Kant's TransDeduct:
> the object is necessarily constructed in the way that it> is by the mind, so that there will be a uniformity in this> construction among all rational agents (space, time, cause/effect,> etc.). 
 
just to clarify are you reading Kant as arguing that *because* there is uniformity among all rational agents then time & space "knowledge/structuring" (for want of better words) must be given prior to experience OR is the emphasis more to do with a sort of typical Kantian (divine) teleology (JR) "there will be a uniformity in this construction among all rational agents". 
 
>This is a weak point in his philosophy that has been capitalized upon, of course.
 
My initial concerns were how, in the first place, Kant could claim to "know" that capacities for space/time structuring were given...this is where I thought the TD came into play?
 
Understandably, Kant was working from within a Newtonian framework whereby time n space are immutable, structural, objective components of the Universe. In a more contemporary physics, time n space I think are understood more *relationally* which would suit Kant's noumenal/phenomenal split I wouldn't have thought.
 
cheers,
 
MP
 
 
> > Jim R> > On Jan 16, 2008 2:19 AM, matthew piscioneri <mpiscioneri at hotmail.com> wrote:> >> > Jim,> >> > sorry but I am a bit rusty on my Kant:> In Kant, we can't "know" the object, but all rational agents> necessarily reconstruct the object in the same way -- which is,> effectively, knowledge of the object. It is -our- knowledge of the> object but not arbitrary knowledge of the object.> > how does Kant explain it is possible to have gathered "certain" knowledge of the necessary components of construction undertaken by the knowing subject?> >> > cheers,> >> > mattP> >> > _______________________________________________> theory-frankfurt-school mailing list> theory-frankfurt-school at srcf.ucam.org> http://www.srcf.ucam.org/mailman/listinfo/theory-frankfurt-school
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