[FRA:] Zizek & Koenigsberg on The Matrix, Human Batteries & the Symbolic Order

matthew piscioneri mpiscioneri at hotmail.com
Wed Jan 16 01:08:31 GMT 2008


I think you have located in Baudrillard the usual suspect reasoning of any type of ontology that suggests either (i) a "more" authentic, "hidden" or "unknowable" Other (Kant's noumenal/phenomenal split is paradigmatic)...(ii) equally so in totalizing critiques (H&A's DoE thesis, Foucault's all truth claims = power claims) that (i) if the Other is so unknowable (Kant) or the simulacrum of a more authentic or original Other, then just how do we gain knowledge of this Other...deus ex machina...the transcendental deduction comes to the rescue. It's funny just how much of a Kantian Baudrillard is. As for (ii) if all forms of reasoning are instrumental and subject to inversion, so too the DoE thesis/if all claims to Truth are really power claims, so too Foucault's theses on power.
 
mattP> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:50:05 +0000> From: m.rogers at cs.ucl.ac.uk> To: theory-frankfurt-school at srcf.ucam.org> Subject: Re: [FRA:] Zizek & Koenigsberg on The Matrix, Human Batteries & the Symbolic Order> > James Rovira wrote:> > Baudrillard's point in SS is that there is no longer an original.> > "No longer" implies, however, that an original existed in the past -> Baudrillard's precession of the simulacra contrasts an authentic past> with the inauthentic present.> > A more interesting (and hardly radical) position would be that history> itself is a simulacrum, so there is no simple authentic past against> which to compare the present.> > Cheers,> Michael> > _______________________________________________> theory-frankfurt-school mailing list> theory-frankfurt-school at srcf.ucam.org> http://www.srcf.ucam.org/mailman/listinfo/theory-frankfurt-school
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