[FRA:] theory-frankfurt-school Digest, Vol 31, Issue 8

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MacIntyre and Bhaskar should be added to the list of critical thinkers.
thanks
regards




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> Yes, I realize I had "exploded" the narrow category of CT> Chomsky does 
> not belong to "critical theory", > though indeed he does have a critique. 
> Chomsky > doesn't believe there is such a thing as social > theory. I 
> thought "critical theory" was bounded > in some way and does not include 
> everyone.
>  
> I guess it depends on whether you use CT (FS tradition, which is very 
> bounded), or critical theory (aka critical social theory) which is a 
> derivative of the Marxian tradition which is derivative of the Kantian 
> tradition of critique.
>  
> > What s an exaggerated emphasis? How about the > elimination of history 
> > and culture?
>  
> I think Marx in _GE_ pretty well understood what an "exaggerated 
> emphasis" was :
>  
> "The production of ideas, of conceptions, of consciousness is at first 
> directly interwoven with the material activity and the material 
> intercourse of men, the language of real life..." (p47)
>  
> A critical semiotics either inverts this or ignores altogether the 
> materiality of human existence. And a little retrogression is required to 
> shatter the contemporary poetic delusions of many feeble minded thinkers. 
> One insight generated by our discussion Ralph is to recognize the 
> Romantic fusion by some hilarious *thinkers* of a radical subjectivity 
> and a sort of "all is text" notion whereby these latter day Zarathustras 
> see themselves literally as the bearers of a world-historical cultural 
> identity.
>  
> > But you don't present any clear ideas as to how they could be combined.
>  
> However unsatisfactory, I think Habermas's work sought to find a 
> compromise between the real/ideal tendencies in C19/20th critical 
> thinking.
>  
> > There is also a rudimentary biologism in Marcuse, > embodied in his 
> > incorporation of Freud, and > manifested in his scurrilous attacks on 
> > Fromm.
>  
> Yes, after I posted I realized I'd overlooked Marcuse's instinct theory 
> especially in Eros/Civilization. Thanks for noting it.
>  
> MP
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