[FRA:] Adorno/Fromm
FREDWELFARE at aol.com
FREDWELFARE at aol.com
Mon Aug 29 03:40:32 BST 2005
In a message dated 8/28/2005 1:33:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
mpiscioneri at hotmail.com writes:
>Probably the cracks run more along
>class lines.
Just to clarify (and probably unnecessarily) I was *broadening* orthodox or
conventional notions of class to include post-war *new* class categories,
including what I take to be my own *class* membership (the educated poor -
albeit of my choice).
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Let's not forget that in most cases the education is merely the specializing
of a particular class, and not only in terms of content, but moreso in terms
of level. After you have your "education" you can't exactly increase it or
go back and get more. Now that you know how to operate your figuative
machine, get to work!
Yes, a lot of water under the bridge since 1968 in certain socio-economic
and cultural spheres and places, which isn't to say that what Horkheimer
describes doesn't still appy in DACS (democratic, advanced capitalist
societies) or in more traditional lifeworlds, which also have thin social
slices of progressive gender-reformed groups). Very difficult - and unwise -
to generalize. It is what makes it all so interesting AND difficult to be
analytically precise in a history of the present.
Acording to most demographic analyses that I have been seeing lately, we are
NOT talking about a thin-slice. I believe more women than men are in the
work-force and since their pay is not commensurate, the future still has more
in store. In this sense, I am sure that Horkheimer's analytical awareness of
authority and dependence will still apply, for example, just look at Bush's
cabinet and entourage.
>Horkheimer in Critical Theory, 1968, see chapter on Authority and the
>Family, explains the position of the mother-wife in the family in terms of
>dependence upon her husband, he states, "Because the woman bows to the laws
>of the patriarchal family, she becomes an instrument for maintaining
authority in
>this society." I am ripping this quote out of its context which is very
rich
>in description and explanation of the cultural and historical context.
That
>men do not revolt but instead adapt and that women are primarily dependent
on
>men are two pertinent aspects. But, this was 1968. Susan Faludi wrote
>Backlash which contains a distinctively different view about current
>events.
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>Between these two views, the actual "mechanisms" that lead to marriage and
>family >still seem either camouflaged or hidden.
I'd prefer to understand these actual mechanisms keeping in mind Marcuse's
brilliant notion of the *procreative regime*. In a sense, this regime
totalizes over both men and women. Of course, the patriachy can only survive
with the *assent* of BOTH men and women. I think this point gets overlooked
in favour of trying to normatively dichotomize the gender binary in the
doubtful interests of some delusionary integrated sisterhood based solely on
*biological* gender. In other words, it is silly to think ALL men support
the patriachy, and ALL women wish for its destruction. As far as I can tell,
the patriachy is a historically contingent manifestation of the more
primordial power-laden interests of the procreative regime.
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I personally do not believe that any part of our political apparatus is
conscious. The formation of the patriarchy is not simply historical, it is also
biological, and given the wiliness of the ruling classes, it is biopolitical.
Foucault disagreed vehemently with Marcuse. My paraphrase of Foucault's
position is that what is happening is not simply repression as Marcuse and
before him W. Reich claimed; the process stimulates and then investigates as if
reproduction occurs as an elicitation by the system which then confines the
'couple' within the matrix of the bureaucratized lifeworld. One of the
reason's I study Habermas, is to address the issue of assent or coordination within
the couple or pairbond. The communicative nature of male-female couples has
much to be desired insofar as it could possibly escape colonization, but see
the Hite Report on the Family or study the complexification of m-f
relationships in the field of evolutionary-psychology. Belief or no belief in
patriarchy or sisterhood (an irrational disposition), establishing and maintaining
sexual relationships under our political and politicized "regime" has much to
be desired and no doubt because of the state apparatus.
>One correction to your post above, why I copied it, is that class should
always be read as lineage as well.
Yes, I recall your interest in this issue from discussions held on the
disbanded Political_Theory at Yahoo group. The guaranteeing of
property/political power interests via the strict management of lineage is a
major part of the equation. The *ruling* class remains very interested in
reproducing (literally) itself :-).
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Not sure this is a ruling class fiasco; the historical entrails of
anti-miscegenation do not simply protest interracial relationships, the genealogical
analysis of "social" distance can take varied forms which I try to describe
with the term lineage, but again, this is sooo unconscious for most people.
Few people understand the kind of interperpsonal solidarity that needs to be
established in order to weather the social blasting that occurs in work,
familial and social contexts (note: I listed work first).
>I wonder if there isn't at least a periodically delimited field that no
longer exists but that did address this problem.
The tone of Horkheimer's and Adorno's discussion suggest this. I won't say
this mode of analysis is anachronistic; simply it is one useful diagnostic
tool amongst several now.
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I would say unique. Is there any similar analytical group like the
Frankfurt School? Especially considering all of the secondary literature produced in
relation to them?
>BTW, Benjamin mentions fetish in the context of souvenir as the remainder
>of a dead experience!
Fascinating and applicable. So if applied to a "fetish of herself," what is
the *dead experience*?
Insofar as fashion is a fetish of herself, or himself, the clothing and
accoutrements would signify a past experience that the wearer attempts to flash
up to produce an enhanced identity; perhaps a combination of previously
witnessed elements that are imitated with the intent to seem greater or higher.
Benjamin would call this pathetic - trying to have an historical effect without
any speech or action. Perfume is a good example of the effect: the smelly pe
rfume would mimetically refer to any number of past experiences which
although they were a fact are no longer and so unconsciously sends the recipient
back into their past, or sends the unconscious recipient back. Infinite
repetition.
FredW
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