Jargon of authenticity [Grok]

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On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 21:16, matthew piscioneri wrote:
> Jim,
> 
> I realise your post emanated prior to the recent quite extraordinarily
> rich collection of messages that have appeared on the List.
> 
> You mention Adorno, and I wonder whether you have read and taken on
> board his _Jargon of Authenticity_?

No, sorry; I've been too tied-down, wracking my brains, trying to figure
out how to counter the New World Post-Modern DisOrder.
I'm way behind in my studies.

However, I will assume that there are _many_ spheres of jargon/abuse --
nowhere more-so than in the 'academy' (and that certainly the worst case
of all -- since academics, of all people, should know better...)





> >Sheesh, what a scholastic, second-rate lot of place-holders! 
> 
> 
> >-- Jim W. Jaszewski. 
> >Actual working-class marxist and journeyman dialectician. 
>  
> I am glad YOU are "actual".

People who don't 'put it on the line' -- no matter HOW they 'talk the
talk' -- are not 'actual', actually.




> I can live with being a placeholder [and "onanistic" - thanks Ralph I
> love you too :-)]. The working-class is not the revolutionary subject
> of history. There is no such thing.

I am sorry. I consider thus utmost crap (obviously).

Clearly, you have a detailed, sophisticated worldview backing this up.
We would obviously circle each other for thousands of years debating the
difference, if the world actually operated according to the principles I
believe you subscribe-to; *however*, a main point of marxism and
dialectical & historical materialism is that *events* and *reality* have
a relentless habit of putting ALL theories to the Test of Fire.
I do not put my money on yours.

And frankly, your 'challenge' reminds me overmuch of the time a Jesuit
theologian came to 'visit' the early marxism Listserv (Dumain should
remember), apparently with much the same intentions -- and place in the
universe, frankly.




>  There are members of our societies who - for god knows what reason -
> take on board care and compassion for other members of their society
> and who in whatever way they are most capable (division of labour) try
> to progress the reduction of oppression and the realisation of human
> hapopiness and freedom.
>  
> There are many aspects of the discourse of emancipation. One of the
> things I think is important to learn from the history of this
> discourse is that splintering into marxists sects and name-calling is
> counter-emancipatory.

Then your buddies shouldn't have sneered at, and been annoyed by, the
one-a-day posts coming from the parody site. WWIII *IS* on, you know;
'the point, however, is to change it' (the World) and all that guff.

Clearly, you are being very selective about where you want to start
dissecting things here... AFAIK, when you invoke 'god' above, you are
not merely using a figure of speech.

Let me add that the above seems highly and suspectly a-historical.




> Unless, that is, those who consider themselves to be authentic covet
> power and domination over the inauthentic. The notion of authenticity
> especially when wrapped up in the anachronistic dialectic of the class
> struggle is IMO repugnant. Which isn't to say I don't regard you as a
> comrade :-).
>  
> Cheers
>  
> MattP.

Anachronistic? Your opinion.

How can we be comrades? You are clearly not any kind of marxist that
could be recognized as such in any reasonable company. And IMO the above
are mere flowery phrases for rationalizing-away the contradictions of
your stance (but then, I half suspect you of merely enjoying a good
troll here...)

IMO such rationalization MOST often takes the form of a 'persecution
complex' such as you clearly express/troll above -- and exactly similar
to what we see expressed hourly on CNN, expressed by such poor, put-upon
people as the U.S. ruling class and its spokesmen/henchmen, etc.,
yadda...

FI, I remember one 'conversation' in the past year with a local
deathsquad thug who was closely tailing me. When I 'violated' the space
of his car by sticking my head in his windows, checking-out his
paraphernalia inside (attempting to intimidate _him_, of course), the
asshole _actually_ whined that 'maybe I was going to take his picture or
something' -- the implication being that this is the kind of thing
'communists' and 'terrorists' do, in their hell-bent course of trying to
enslave the world -- and fine, upstanding patriots like himself.

IMO what you have written above expresses _exactly_ the same bad faith
argument -- i.e. I am accusing you of expressing a sophistry.



-- J.W. Jaszewski.
The Real McCoy/McKay.



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