postone?

Daniel F. Vukovich vukovich at students.uiuc.edu
Tue, 17 Nov 1998 03:14:29 -0600


Mistakenly sent this only to Campbell, so sending it fwd in case anyone
else might care?!  


Campbell,

Thanks for the response-- looking forward to getting back to the book
myself, as Ive gotten bogged down reading some really bad Sinology lately.

The Gayle Rubin piece -- "The Traffic in Women: Notes on the Political
Economy of Sex" -- can be found in *Toward an Anthropology of Women*, a
collection from Monthly Review Press...1975 I think

The Brennan book is *History After Lacan*, to which there is an appendix
detailing her reading of the labor theory of value -- but the Marx stuff is
worked throughout the book.  This is a really remarkable book, by the
way....  I have some problems with it, but havent seen a work of theory
like this in some time; it ranges from Lacan-as-historian, to feminist
theory, to ecological theory, to Marx, etc.  And its not quite rigorous and
well written -- not trendy nor overly Lacanian in terminology.

I like that Spivak piece you mentioned, but I am myself working more with
her later comments/probings about the Value-question, in her more recent
collection, *Outside in the Teaching Machine.*  See the first part of chpt
3, the interview in Chpt 1, and the comments on Marx (usually vis a vis
Foucault or Derrida) scattered throughout the other essays.  Unfortunately,
none of these essays are directly about Marx/Value, like the earlier one
is....

I'd also be interested in discussing that essay too (the Scattered
Specualtions piece), either here or off-list, etc.  Im not sure of others
on this list would be interested, but on the other hand, the question of
value isnt alien to the Frankfurters of course.  More specifically, the
question of use-value seems important to Adorno's aesthetics and
mass-culture critiques. And I think old Teodor remains the best writer of
how reification (which is in part what the Value rhetoric is about) reaches
into daily life and mass culture. I also wonder if there isnt a sort of
naturalism to Adorno and the early work of the "school" -- in other words
if they dont share with Marx a certain anthropology of the human subject.  

Anyway, hope these cites help.

Best,

Dan




At 12:32 PM 11/17/98 +1300, you wrote:
>Daniel,
>
>I was interested by your comments on Marx's theory of value.  I have just
>picked up postone's book, so I'm not in a position to comment on that yet.
>I will try to get to this soon.  
>
>Also, you wrote:
>>my understanding of Value
>>here is informed by Spivak's, Gail Rubin's and Teresa Brennan's readings of
>>Marx, readings which I think move in step with traditonal critical theory's
>>take on this aspect of Marx (as in SOhn-Rethel esp, but Adorno and
>>Horkheimer too, at least implicitly).
>>
>
>
>I recently read an essay by Spivak 'scattered speculations on the question
>of value', and was very impressed.  Are there other specific sources
>(Rubin?, Brennan?) that I might find useful to extend this....?
>
>Regards,
>
>
>
>
>
>Campbell Jones
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>
Daniel Vukovich
English; The Unit for Criticism
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign