[Nomic] New Summary (please vote)
Mike Cripps
nomic-talk at srcf.ucam.org
Mon Sep 27 09:57:01 2004
John-Joseph Wilks wrote:
>>> 4. The Law of Lizardmen. This is a pair of linked suggestions taking
>>> one the following form:
>>> The Rule of Autoadoption:
>>>
>>> Any entities which are elegible to be members of the List of Voters
>>> may join the game providing that the following conditions are satisfied:
>>> 1) They have subscribed to the mailing list (if there is one).
>>> 2) They are not already in the List of Voters.
>>> 3) They have made a post to the mailing list declaring that:
>>> a) All of 1-3 are satisfied.
>>> b) They are not a lizardman from Antares IV.
>>> c) They wish to join the game.
>>> Once these events have happened then they are added to the List of
>>> Voters, and are deemed to have joined the game. Their consent is not
>>> needed on any issues that require consent that are under consideration
>>> at the time of their joining the game.
>>>
>>> A Planet? Where Lizards evolved from Men?
>>> All entities eligible to be members of the List Of Voters (Which
>>> shall be all living extranomic entities of the species Homo Sapiens
>>> Sapiens) shall be considered to be lizardmen from Antares IV until a
>>> member of the List Of Voters states "I do not believe <name of
>>> entity> is a lizardman from
>>> Antares IV", where "<name of entity>" is to be replaced with the name
>>> of the entity in question. No existing member of the List Of Voters
>>> is a lizardman from Antares IV.
>>>
>>> Ayes: adam, Maz, JJ, Carrie, Madeleine, dok, Stumo, Mike
>
>
> (awaiting Martin's verdict on this wording of it)
>
>>>
>>>
>>> 5. The Rule of Assumed Consent
>>> The current form of this is as follows:
>>> A player shall be considered to have given their consent to a
>>> proposal if the following are true:
>>> The proposal was suggested more than 72 hours ago, and they haven't
>>> explicitly expressed a lack of consent.
>>> Ayes: Maz, JJ, Carrie, dok, Martin, adam, Stumo, Madeleine
+ Aye: Mike
>
>
>>>
>>> 6: The Law of Lexicography (reworded
>>
>> There shall be a dictionary, called the Definitions Dictionary. The
>> definitions given in the Definitions Dictionary superceed the usual
>> English meaning of terms for the purposes of the game; but are
>> overriden by explicit rules wording.
>>
>>>
>>> Ayes: Maz, Mike, Madeleine, Stumo, Martin, JJ, adam
>>> Not yet responded to the change: Carrie, dok
>>>
>
>>> 8: The 'Exception that proves the' Rule:
>>> A rule may override another rule if and only if it mentions that rule by
>>> name. The only exception is this rule, which overrides all others,
>>> except those which mention it by name.
>>>
>>> Ayes: Maz, JJ, Martin, adam, dok, Madeleine, Stumo
+Aye: Mike
>>
>> Withheld: Carrie (based on uncertainty about the matter of rules
>> merely referencing others rather than explicitly overriding them)
>>
>>>
>
>>>
> But I can't hear it!
>
> /* -- REM, Radio Song */
>
> Any text in a rule between C-style comment delimiters; as demonstrated
> above; has no rules effect, and exists only as a comment
>
> Proposer: Madeleine
> Aye: JJ
> Nay: adam, dok
>
+Aye: Mike
>
>
> Spooky Action At A Distance
>
> A voter may declare that a rules change that they have proposed is
> entwined with another existing proposed rules change.
>
> A rules change cannot be considered to have a Consensus of Opinion in
> favour of it if any rules changed that it has been entwined with has
> already recieved a Consensus of Opinion. This rule overrides Rule 4,
> Consensus of Opinion.
>
> Proposer: Madeleine
> Aye: adam
> Nay: JJ, Carrie
>
+Nay: Mike
>
> Bored Of Being Board
>
> There shall exist an infinite, 2-dimensional integer grid (a copy of
> Z^2), henceforth known as The Board. The Board, and the location of
> entities upon it, shall be considered part of the state of the game. If
> at any point a member of the List of Voters lacks a location on The
> Board, their location shall be set to (0,0).
> ===
>
> Proposer: Martin
> Aye: JJ, Stumo, adam, Carrie, Madeleine, dok
>
+Aye: Mike
>
> Proposal the creation of the rule "Screw you, Anti Capitalists"
> ---
> Each member of the list of voters will have an associated account with
> The "Bank of Anarchic Neurotic Kleptomaniacs" (The BANK). This account
> consists of a non-negative integer of Currency. All accounts begin with
> balance zero.
> ---
> Prop: Stumo
> Aye: Carrie, Madeleine, dok, JJ, Martin
>
+Aye: Mike
>
>
> Proposal for the creation of the rule "A job? What's that then?"
> ---
> Each member of the list of voters will have their BANK accounts
> increased by one currency unit at midnight each night.
> ---
> Prop: Stumo
> Aye: Carrie, Madeleine, dok, Martin, JJ
+Aye: Mike
>
>
> Proposal for the creation of the rule "Bureaucrats (Inc)"
> ---
> On distribution of a valid Notice of Consensus, each member of the list
> of voters shall have the contents of their BANK account multiplied by
> 1.2 and rounded up to an integer amount.
> ---
> Prop: Stumo
> Aye: Madeleine, dok, Martin
> Nay: Carrie, JJ
+Nay: Mike
>
>
> Insufficient Notices
>
> Any voting entity who creates a document purporting to be a Notice of
> Consensus which is not in fact valid shall be guilty of the crime of
> Taking Insufficient Notice. ==========
>
> Prop: adam
> Aye: Stumo, dok, JJ, Madeleine
>
+Aye: Mike
>
> Oy, that's unfair!
>
> No rule may discriminate between players except on the basis of
> in-game factors.
>
> Prop: Madeleine
> Nay: JJ
>
>
+Nay: Mike
>
>
> Proposal for the creation of the rule "Screw you, Anti Capitalists"
> ---
> Each member of the list of voters will have an associated account with
> The "Bank of Anarchic Neurotic Kleptomaniacs" (The BANK). This account
> consists of a non-negative integer of Currency. All accounts begin with
> balance zero. Balances will be looked after by the Chief Cashier, who
> should publish a breakdown of balances and transaction history for each
> day. The post of Chief Cashier will be a Ministry post, should this
> phrase have any meaning in the game.
> ---
> Prop: Stumo
> Aye: JJ, Martin, Madeleine
Ummm, this was ^^ too. Still Aye, though.
>
> Proposal for the creation of the rule "Who's the banker in the black?"
> ---
> The Chief Cashier will be Stuart Moore
> ---
> Prop: Stumo
> Aye: JJ, Martin, Madeleine
+Aye: Mike
>
>
>
> 1. Any two players whose locations on the Bored of Being Board are the
> same are Friendly.
> Any player whose location is at least 4 units from all other players
> (under a Euclidean metric) is a Loner.
>
> Prop: JJ
> Aye: Madeleine, Stumo
+Aye: Mike
>
>
>
>
> 2. Any player may spend a unit of Currency from their BANK account at
> any time to move their location one orthogonal unit on the Board,
> informing the other players of this fact and their new location.
>
> Prop: JJ
> Aye: Madeleine, Stumo
+Aye: Mike
>
>
>
> 3. This one's the biggie. Half the point of proposing this is just to
> get real discussion going on the subject:
>
> I propose changing the wording of Rule 4, Consensus of Opinion from:
>
> A Consensus of Opinion on a particular issue exists when one entity
> named on the List of Voters makes a proposal describing the issue to all
> other entities named on the List of Voters, obtains unambiguous consent
> to that proposal from each such entity and then posts a public Notice of
> Consensus to the other members detailing the issue upon which Consensus
> of Opinion has been reached.
>
> to:
>
> A Consensus of Opinion on a particular issue exists when one entity
> named on the List of Voters makes a proposal describing the issue to all
> other entities named on the List of Voters, obtains unambiguous consent
> to that proposal from each such entity that will be affected differently
> to all other such entities and all but at most one other such entity,
> and then posts a public Notice of Consensus to the other members
> detailing the issue upon which Consensus of Opinion has been reached.
>
> Prop: JJ
> Aye: Madeleine
+Nay: Mike
everyone will be treated differently by almost every rule - either
preferentially or negatively by the rule.
Mike