[Nomic] New Summary (please vote)

Mike Cripps nomic-talk at srcf.ucam.org
Mon Sep 27 09:57:01 2004


John-Joseph Wilks wrote:
>>> 4. The Law of Lizardmen. This is a pair of linked suggestions taking 
>>> one the following form:
>>> The Rule of Autoadoption:
>>>
>>> Any entities which are elegible to be members of the List of Voters
>>> may join the game providing that the following conditions are satisfied:
>>> 1) They have subscribed to the mailing list (if there is one).
>>> 2) They are not already in the List of Voters.
>>> 3) They have made a post to the mailing list declaring that:
>>> a) All of 1-3 are satisfied.
>>> b) They are not a lizardman from Antares IV.
>>> c) They wish to join the game.
>>> Once these events have happened then they are added to the List of
>>> Voters, and are deemed to have joined the game.  Their consent is not
>>> needed on any issues that require consent that are under consideration
>>> at the time of their joining the game.
>>>
>>> A Planet? Where Lizards evolved from Men?
>>> All entities eligible to be members of the List Of Voters (Which 
>>> shall be all living extranomic entities of the species Homo Sapiens 
>>> Sapiens) shall be considered to be lizardmen from Antares IV until a 
>>> member of the List Of Voters states "I do not believe <name of 
>>> entity> is a lizardman from
>>> Antares IV", where "<name of entity>" is to be replaced with the name 
>>> of the entity in question. No existing member of the List Of Voters 
>>> is a lizardman from Antares IV.
>>>
>>> Ayes: adam, Maz, JJ, Carrie, Madeleine, dok, Stumo, Mike
> 
> 
> (awaiting Martin's verdict on this wording of it)
> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 5. The Rule of Assumed Consent
>>> The current form of this is as follows:
>>> A player shall be considered to have given their consent to a 
>>> proposal if the following are true:
>>> The proposal was suggested more than 72 hours ago, and they haven't 
>>> explicitly expressed a lack of consent.
>>> Ayes: Maz, JJ, Carrie, dok, Martin, adam, Stumo, Madeleine

+ Aye: Mike

> 
> 
>>>
>>> 6: The Law of Lexicography (reworded
>>
>> There shall be a dictionary, called the Definitions Dictionary.  The
>> definitions given in the Definitions Dictionary superceed the usual
>> English meaning of terms for the purposes of the game; but are
>> overriden by explicit rules wording.
>>
>>>
>>> Ayes: Maz, Mike, Madeleine, Stumo, Martin, JJ, adam
>>> Not yet responded to the change: Carrie, dok
>>>
> 
>>> 8: The 'Exception that proves the' Rule:
>>> A rule may override another rule if and only if it mentions that rule by
>>> name. The only exception is this rule, which overrides all others,
>>> except those which mention it by name.
>>>
>>> Ayes: Maz, JJ, Martin, adam, dok, Madeleine, Stumo

+Aye: Mike

>>
>> Withheld: Carrie (based on uncertainty about the matter of rules 
>> merely referencing others rather than explicitly overriding them)
>>
>>>
> 
>>>

> But I can't hear it!
> 
> /* -- REM, Radio Song */
> 
> Any text in a rule between C-style comment delimiters; as demonstrated
> above; has no rules effect, and exists only as a comment
> 
> Proposer: Madeleine
> Aye: JJ
> Nay: adam, dok
> 

+Aye: Mike

> 
> 
> Spooky Action At A Distance
> 
> A voter may declare that a rules change that they have proposed is
> entwined with another existing proposed rules change.
> 
> A rules change cannot be considered to have a Consensus of Opinion in
> favour of it if any rules changed that it has been entwined with has
> already recieved a Consensus of Opinion. This rule overrides Rule 4, 
> Consensus of Opinion.
> 
> Proposer: Madeleine
> Aye: adam
> Nay: JJ, Carrie
> 

+Nay: Mike

> 
> Bored Of Being Board
> 
> There shall exist an infinite, 2-dimensional integer grid (a copy of
> Z^2), henceforth known as The Board. The Board, and the location of
> entities upon it, shall be considered part of the state of the game. If
> at any point a member of the List of Voters lacks a location on The
> Board, their location shall be set to (0,0).
> ===
> 
> Proposer: Martin
> Aye: JJ, Stumo, adam, Carrie, Madeleine, dok
> 

+Aye: Mike

> 
> Proposal the creation of the rule "Screw you, Anti Capitalists"
> ---
> Each member of the list of voters will have an associated account with 
> The "Bank of Anarchic Neurotic Kleptomaniacs" (The BANK). This account 
> consists of a non-negative integer of Currency. All accounts begin with 
> balance zero.
> ---
> Prop: Stumo
> Aye: Carrie, Madeleine, dok, JJ, Martin
> 

+Aye: Mike

> 
> 
> Proposal for the creation of the rule "A job? What's that then?"
> ---
> Each member of the list of voters will have their BANK accounts 
> increased by one currency unit at midnight each night.
> ---
> Prop: Stumo
> Aye: Carrie, Madeleine, dok, Martin, JJ

+Aye: Mike

> 
> 
> Proposal for the creation of the rule "Bureaucrats (Inc)"
> ---
> On distribution of a valid Notice of Consensus, each member of the list 
> of voters shall have the contents of their BANK account multiplied by 
> 1.2 and rounded up to an integer amount.
> ---
> Prop: Stumo
> Aye: Madeleine, dok, Martin
> Nay: Carrie, JJ

+Nay: Mike

> 
> 
> Insufficient Notices
> 
> Any voting entity who creates a document purporting to be a Notice of 
> Consensus which is not in fact valid shall be guilty of the crime of 
> Taking Insufficient Notice. ==========
> 
> Prop: adam
>  Aye: Stumo, dok, JJ, Madeleine
> 

+Aye: Mike

> 
> Oy, that's unfair!
> 
> No rule may discriminate between players except on the basis of
> in-game factors.
> 
> Prop: Madeleine
> Nay: JJ
> 
> 

+Nay: Mike

> 
> 
> Proposal for the creation of the rule "Screw you, Anti Capitalists"
> ---
> Each member of the list of voters will have an associated account with 
> The "Bank of Anarchic Neurotic Kleptomaniacs" (The BANK). This account 
> consists of a non-negative integer of Currency. All accounts begin with 
> balance zero. Balances will be looked after by the Chief Cashier, who 
> should publish a breakdown of balances and transaction history for each 
> day. The post of Chief Cashier will be a Ministry post, should this 
> phrase have any meaning in the game.
> ---
> Prop: Stumo
> Aye: JJ, Martin, Madeleine

Ummm, this was ^^ too. Still Aye, though.

> 
> Proposal for the creation of the rule "Who's the banker in the black?"
> ---
> The Chief Cashier will be Stuart Moore
> ---
> Prop: Stumo
> Aye: JJ, Martin, Madeleine

+Aye: Mike

> 
> 
> 
> 1. Any two players whose locations on the Bored of Being Board are the 
> same are Friendly.
> Any player whose location is at least 4 units from all other players 
> (under a Euclidean metric) is a Loner.
> 
> Prop: JJ
> Aye: Madeleine, Stumo

+Aye: Mike

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2. Any player may spend a unit of Currency from their BANK account at 
> any time to move their location one orthogonal unit on the Board, 
> informing the other players of this fact and their new location.
> 
> Prop: JJ
> Aye: Madeleine, Stumo

+Aye: Mike

> 
> 
> 
> 3. This one's the biggie. Half the point of proposing this is just to 
> get real discussion going on the subject:
> 
> I propose changing the wording of Rule 4, Consensus of Opinion from:
> 
> A Consensus of Opinion on a particular issue exists when one entity 
> named on the List of Voters makes a proposal describing the issue to all 
> other entities named on the List of Voters, obtains unambiguous consent 
> to that proposal from each such entity and then posts a public Notice of 
> Consensus to the other members detailing the issue upon which Consensus 
> of Opinion has been reached.
> 
> to:
> 
> A Consensus of Opinion on a particular issue exists when one entity 
> named on the List of Voters makes a proposal describing the issue to all 
> other entities named on the List of Voters, obtains unambiguous consent 
> to that proposal from each such entity that will be affected differently 
> to all other such entities and all but at most one other such entity, 
> and then posts a public Notice of Consensus to the other members 
> detailing the issue upon which Consensus of Opinion has been reached.
> 
> Prop: JJ
> Aye: Madeleine

+Nay: Mike

everyone will be treated differently by almost every rule - either 
preferentially or negatively by the rule.

Mike