[Nomic] New Summary (please vote)

John-Joseph Wilks nomic-talk at srcf.ucam.org
Sun Sep 26 23:59:02 2004


>>4. The Law of Lizardmen. This is a pair of linked suggestions taking one 
>>the following form:
>>The Rule of Autoadoption:
>>
>>Any entities which are elegible to be members of the List of Voters
>>may join the game providing that the following conditions are satisfied:
>>1) They have subscribed to the mailing list (if there is one).
>>2) They are not already in the List of Voters.
>>3) They have made a post to the mailing list declaring that:
>>a) All of 1-3 are satisfied.
>>b) They are not a lizardman from Antares IV.
>>c) They wish to join the game.
>>Once these events have happened then they are added to the List of
>>Voters, and are deemed to have joined the game.  Their consent is not
>>needed on any issues that require consent that are under consideration
>>at the time of their joining the game.
>>
>>A Planet? Where Lizards evolved from Men?
>>All entities eligible to be members of the List Of Voters (Which shall be 
>>all living extranomic entities of the species Homo Sapiens Sapiens) shall 
>>be considered to be lizardmen from Antares IV until a member of the List 
>>Of Voters states "I do not believe <name of entity> is a lizardman from
>>Antares IV", where "<name of entity>" is to be replaced with the name of 
>>the entity in question. No existing member of the List Of Voters is a 
>>lizardman from Antares IV.
>>
>>Ayes: adam, Maz, JJ, Carrie, Madeleine, dok, Stumo, Mike

(awaiting Martin's verdict on this wording of it)
>>
>>
>>5. The Rule of Assumed Consent
>>The current form of this is as follows:
>>A player shall be considered to have given their consent to a proposal if 
>>the following are true:
>>The proposal was suggested more than 72 hours ago, and they haven't 
>>explicitly expressed a lack of consent.
>>Ayes: Maz, JJ, Carrie, dok, Martin, adam, Stumo, Madeleine

>>
>>6: The Law of Lexicography (reworded
>There shall be a dictionary, called the Definitions Dictionary.  The
>definitions given in the Definitions Dictionary superceed the usual
>English meaning of terms for the purposes of the game; but are
>overriden by explicit rules wording.
>>
>>Ayes: Maz, Mike, Madeleine, Stumo, Martin, JJ, adam
>>Not yet responded to the change: Carrie, dok
>>

>>8: The 'Exception that proves the' Rule:
>>A rule may override another rule if and only if it mentions that rule by
>>name. The only exception is this rule, which overrides all others,
>>except those which mention it by name.
>>
>>Ayes: Maz, JJ, Martin, adam, dok, Madeleine, Stumo
>Withheld: Carrie (based on uncertainty about the matter of rules merely 
>referencing others rather than explicitly overriding them)
>>

>>
>>11: The Rule of Self-Image
>>The game shall have a name, which shall be "Terrapin Nomic".
>>
>>Ayes: JJ, adam, dok, Mike, Martin, Madeleine, Maz
>Nay: Carrie, Stumo

suggest something else then dammit!
>>
>>



Twice the fun; harf the harf!

A proposed rules change may be described as harfy.

A proposed rules change can only become harfy if:
a) No other proposed rules change is harfy.
b) The Harfharfer declares that it is harfy.
c) It was not proposed by the current Harfharfer.

If a harfy rules change takes place then the following events happen:
a) The entity which proposed the rules change gains one chocolate
biscuit.
b) The entity which proposed the rules change becomes the Harfharfer;
the previous Harfharfer ceases to be the Harfharfer.
c) If the rule change created a rule, then that rule may also be
described as harfy.

If there is no harfy rules change for three days, but there exist
non-harfy proposed rules changes for that entire period, then the
Harfharfer is guilty of the Crime of Hogging the Harf.

The standard punishment for the Crime of Hogging the Harf shall be
confiscation of two chocolate biscuits.

Adam Biltcliffe becomes the Harfharfer; The Rule of Girls may be
described as harfy; and this paragraph is deleted from the rules.

Proposer: Madeleine
Aye: adam, JJ, dok
Nay: Mike, Carrie




But I can't hear it!

/* -- REM, Radio Song */

Any text in a rule between C-style comment delimiters; as demonstrated
above; has no rules effect, and exists only as a comment

Proposer: Madeleine
Aye: JJ
Nay: adam, dok



Spooky Action At A Distance

A voter may declare that a rules change that they have proposed is
entwined with another existing proposed rules change.

A rules change cannot be considered to have a Consensus of Opinion in
favour of it if any rules changed that it has been entwined with has
already recieved a Consensus of Opinion. This rule overrides Rule 4, 
Consensus of Opinion.

Proposer: Madeleine
Aye: adam
Nay: JJ, Carrie


Bored Of Being Board

There shall exist an infinite, 2-dimensional integer grid (a copy of
Z^2), henceforth known as The Board. The Board, and the location of
entities upon it, shall be considered part of the state of the game. If
at any point a member of the List of Voters lacks a location on The
Board, their location shall be set to (0,0).
===

Proposer: Martin
Aye: JJ, Stumo, adam, Carrie, Madeleine, dok


The Party Knows Best

The game shall contain a Ministry which is a mapping of role names to 
extranomic entities. If a role has a duty defined by the rules, and that 
role is currently occupied by an extranomic entity, then that entity is 
encouraged to perform the tasks specified by that duty.
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Prop: adam
Aye: Carrie, Madeleine, Mike, Stumo, dok, JJ, Martin

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Minister of Truth

The duty of the Minister of Truth shall be to make available to all players 
a reasonably current summary of the current proposals upon which consensus 
has not been reached, and the standings of all members of the List of Voters 
with respect to those proposals.
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Prop: adam
Aye: Carrie, Madeleine, Mike, Stumo, dok, JJ, Martin

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Minister of Freedom

The duty of the Minister of Freedom shall be to make available to all 
players a reasonably current summary of the current state of the rules of 
the game.
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Prop: adam
Aye: Carrie, Madeleine, Mike, Stumo, dok, JJ, Martin


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Mike Is Not A Window Cleaner

The Minister of Truth shall be Mike Cripps.
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Prop: adam
Aye: Carrie, Mike, Madeleine, Stumo, dok, JJ, Martin

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Stumo Is Possibly A Window Cleaner

The Minister of Truth shall be Stuart Moore.
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Prop: adam
Aye: Madeleine, JJ, Stumo, dok, Martin
Nay: Carrie, Mike,


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Adam Lives Underground Anyway

The Minister of Freedom shall be Adam Biltcliffe.
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Prop: adam
Aye: Madeleine, Mike, Stumo, dok, JJ, Carrie, Martin



http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/lookaroundyou/periodic.shtml is the
official Periodic Table for the game.

Prop: Madeleine
Aye: Mike, Stumo, dok, adam, JJ, Carrie, Martin



Proposal the creation of the rule "Screw you, Anti Capitalists"
---
Each member of the list of voters will have an associated account with The 
"Bank of Anarchic Neurotic Kleptomaniacs" (The BANK). This account consists 
of a non-negative integer of Currency. All accounts begin with balance zero.
---
Prop: Stumo
Aye: Carrie, Madeleine, dok, JJ, Martin



Proposal for the creation of the rule "A job? What's that then?"
---
Each member of the list of voters will have their BANK accounts increased by 
one currency unit at midnight each night.
---
Prop: Stumo
Aye: Carrie, Madeleine, dok, Martin, JJ


Proposal for the creation of the rule "Bureaucrats (Inc)"
---
On distribution of a valid Notice of Consensus, each member of the list of 
voters shall have the contents of their BANK account multiplied by 1.2 and 
rounded up to an integer amount.
---
Prop: Stumo
Aye: Madeleine, dok, Martin
Nay: Carrie, JJ


Insufficient Notices

Any voting entity who creates a document purporting to be a Notice of 
Consensus which is not in fact valid shall be guilty of the crime of Taking 
Insufficient Notice. ==========

Prop: adam
  Aye: Stumo, dok, JJ, Madeleine


Oy, that's unfair!

No rule may discriminate between players except on the basis of
in-game factors.

Prop: Madeleine
Nay: JJ




Proposal for the creation of the rule "Screw you, Anti Capitalists"
---
Each member of the list of voters will have an associated account with The 
"Bank of Anarchic Neurotic Kleptomaniacs" (The BANK). This account consists 
of a non-negative integer of Currency. All accounts begin with balance zero. 
Balances will be looked after by the Chief Cashier, who should publish a 
breakdown of balances and transaction history for each day. The post of 
Chief Cashier will be a Ministry post, should this phrase have any meaning 
in the game.
---
Prop: Stumo
Aye: JJ, Martin, Madeleine

Proposal for the creation of the rule "Who's the banker in the black?"
---
The Chief Cashier will be Stuart Moore
---
Prop: Stumo
Aye: JJ, Martin, Madeleine



1. Any two players whose locations on the Bored of Being Board are the same 
are Friendly.
Any player whose location is at least 4 units from all other players (under 
a Euclidean metric) is a Loner.

Prop: JJ
Aye: Madeleine, Stumo




2. Any player may spend a unit of Currency from their BANK account at any 
time to move their location one orthogonal unit on the Board, informing the 
other players of this fact and their new location.

Prop: JJ
Aye: Madeleine, Stumo



3. This one's the biggie. Half the point of proposing this is just to get 
real discussion going on the subject:

I propose changing the wording of Rule 4, Consensus of Opinion from:

A Consensus of Opinion on a particular issue exists when one entity named on 
the List of Voters makes a proposal describing the issue to all other 
entities named on the List of Voters, obtains unambiguous consent to that 
proposal from each such entity and then posts a public Notice of Consensus 
to the other members detailing the issue upon which Consensus of Opinion has 
been reached.

to:

A Consensus of Opinion on a particular issue exists when one entity named on 
the List of Voters makes a proposal describing the issue to all other 
entities named on the List of Voters, obtains unambiguous consent to that 
proposal from each such entity that will be affected differently to all 
other such entities and all but at most one other such entity, and then 
posts a public Notice of Consensus to the other members detailing the issue 
upon which Consensus of Opinion has been reached.

Prop: JJ
Aye: Madeleine

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