[Nomic] Summary
Stuart Moore
nomic-talk at srcf.ucam.org
Thu Sep 23 23:21:01 2004
John-Joseph Wilks wrote:
>> 4. The Law of Lizardmen. This is a pair of linked suggestions taking
>> one the following form:
>> The Rule of Autoadoption:
>>
>> Any entities which are elegible to be members of the List of Voters
>> may join the game providing that the following conditions are satisfied:
>> 1) They have subscribed to the mailing list (if there is one).
>> 2) They are not already in the List of Voters.
>> 3) They have made a post to the mailing list declaring that:
>> a) All of 1-3 are satisfied.
>> b) They are not a lizardman from Antares IV.
>> c) They wish to join the game.
>> Once these events have happened then they are added to the List of
>> Voters, and are deemed to have joined the game. Their consent is not
>> needed on any issues that require consent that are under consideration
>> at the time of their joining the game.
>>
>> A Planet? Where Lizards evolved from Men?
>> All entities eligible to be members of the List Of Voters (Which shall
>> be all living extranomic entities of the species Homo Sapiens Sapiens)
>> shall be considered to be lizardmen from Antares IV until a member of
>> the List Of Voters states "I do not believe <name of entity> is a
>> lizardman from
>> Antares IV", where "<name of entity>" is to be replaced with the name
>> of the entity in question. No existing member of the List Of Voters is
>> a lizardman from Antares IV.
>>
>> Ayes: Martin, adam, Maz, JJ, Carrie, Madeleine, dok
Aye
>>
>>
>> 5. The Rule of Assumed Consent
>> The current form of this is as follows:
>> A player shall be considered to have given their consent to a proposal
>> if the following are true:
>> The proposal was suggested more than 72 hours ago, and they haven't
>> explicitly expressed a lack of consent.
>> Ayes: Maz, JJ, Carrie, dok
Aye
>>
>> 7:The Existence of the Council
>> There shall exist the Great Council of the Elder Turtles, which shall
>> contain a number of Posts. Each Post shall consist of a Title, which
>> can be assigned a member of the List of Voters, and a list of duties
>> which the member holding that Post should perform. Failure on the part
>> of that member to perform these duties shall make them guilty of the
>> crime of Uselessness
>>
>> (This proposal has been reworded to remove some of the objections)
>>
>> Aye: JJ, dok, Carrie
>> Withheld: Maz, Stumo, Martin, Madeleine
Aye
>>
>> 8: The 'Exception that proves the' Rule:
>> A rule may override another rule if and only if it mentions that rule by
>> name. The only exception is this rule, which overrides all others,
>> except those which mention it by name.
>>
>> Ayes: Maz, JJ, Martin, adam, dok, Madeleine
Aye
>> 10: Create a rule as follows, called the Rule of Girls:
>> Notices of Consensus are considered to be printed on coloured paper.
>> Any electronic document purporting to be a Notice of Consensus is only
>> deemed to be so if it clearly describes what colour paper it is
>> printed on.
>>
>> Ayes: dok, JJ, adam, Mike, Martin, Maz, Carrie, Madeleine
Aye
>>
>> 11: The Rule of Self-Image
>> The game shall have a name, which shall be "Terrapin Nomic".
>>
>> Ayes: JJ, adam, dok, Mike, Martin, Madeleine, Maz
>
> Nay: Carrie
Nay, there are far better names.
>>
>>
>
>> 14: The Law of Total Annihilation
>> "Should thirteen paradoxes in the rules be discovered to exist
>> simultaneously, the nomic game ends, and the voters must lament having
>> destroyed the universe by trying to be too clever."
>>
>> Ayes: dok, Carrie, Madeleine
>> Nay: JJ (pending description of how a paradox is actually defined)
Aye
>
> 18: A lemon? Already?
> The member of the List of Voters "Carrie Oliver" shall redefine the
> meanings of "aye" and "nay" as she sees fit at midnight each day.
> Members of the List of Voters have the right to request the meanings of
> "yay" and "nay" from Carrie Oliver, and in return, she has the right to
> set simple tasks (such as "deliver this plank") that must be
> accomplished before said information is given. Should Carrie Olvier give
> contradictory information to different members of the List of Voters,
> she shall be guilty of the crime of "Extreme Naughtiness" for 24 hours
> starting at the point of discovery of the deception.
>
> (note: Voters do not, of course, need to use these particular words to
> vote unambiguously, and may instead use "urk" and "whoopee!" or any
> other such words, so long as their intent is clear.)
>
> Proposer: dok
> Aye: JJ
> Nay: Mike
Nay
>
> 19: The Feathers rule.
> Any player found quilty of the crime of "Extreme Naughtiness" is
> punishable by the punishment of tickling, and may be punished by any
> member of the List of Voters. The punishment may be administered at any
> time during the period that the person guilty of extreme naughtiness is
> defined to be guilty for. No member of the List of Voters may punish the
> guilty party more than once during the same period of guilt.
>
> Proposer: dok
> Aye: JJ
> Nay: Mike
Nay