[Nomic] Summary of Proposals 2

Jonathan David Amery nomic-talk at srcf.ucam.org
Thu Sep 23 15:54:01 2004


> 6: The Law of Lexicography
> There shall be a dictionary, called the Definitions Dictionary, which
> shall be kept up-to-date with all game terms.  The definitions given
> in the definitions dictionary superceed the usual english meaning of
> terms; but are overriden by explicit rules wording.
> 
> Ayes: Maz, Mike, Madeleine, Stumo, Martin
> Not well enough defined: JJ, adam

 How about:

There shall be a dictionary, called the Definitions Dictionary.  The
definitions given in the definitions dictionary superceed the usual
english meaning of terms for the purposes of the game; but are
overriden by explicit rules wording.

 
> 7:The Existence of the Council
> There shall exist the Great Council of the Elder Turtles, which shall 
> contain a number of Posts. Each Post shall consist of a Title, which can be 
> assigned a member of the List of Voters, and a list of duties which the 
> member holding that Post should perform. Failure on the part of that member 
> to perform these duties shall make them guilty of the crime of
> 
> (This proposal has been reworded to remove some of the objections)
> 
> Aye: JJ
> Withheld: Maz, Stumo, Martin
> Nay: ahdok (But surely we're going to need some way to assign things to 
> people? ed.)

 The crime of what?
 
> 8: The 'Exception that proves the' Rule:
> A rule may override another rule if and only if it mentions that rule by
> name. The only exception is this rule, which overrides all others,
> except those which mention it by name.
> 
> Ayes: Maz, JJ, Martin, adam, dok

 Aye, but what if two rules disagree, and neither overrules?

> 9: Alter the text of Rule 4, Concensus of Opinion from:
> A Consensus of Opinion on a particular change to the rules exists when one 
> entity named on the List of Voters proposes the change to all other entities 
> named on the List of Voters and obtains unambiguous consent to that change 
> from each such entity.
> to:
> A Consensus of Opinion on a particular issue exists when one entity named on 
> the List of Voters makes a proposal describing the issue to all other 
> entities named on the List of Voters, obtains unambiguous consent to that 
> proposal from each such entity and then posts a public Notice of Consensus 
> to the other members detailing the issue upon which Consensus of Opinion has 
> been reached.
> 
> Ayes: JJ, dok, adam, Mike, Stumo, Martin, Maz

 Aye

> 10: Create a rule as follows, called the Rule of Girls:
> Notices of Consensus are considered to be printed on coloured paper. Any 
> electronic document purporting to be a Notice of Consensus is only deemed to 
> be so if it clearly describes what colour paper it is printed on.
> 
> Ayes: dok, JJ, adam, Mike, Martin, Maz

 Aye, why not?

> 11: The Rule of Self-Image
> The game shall have a name, which shall be "Terrapin Nomic".
> 
> Ayes: JJ, adam, dok, Mike, Martin

 Couldn't you come up with something more interesting?  Aye.

> 12: Create a rule named The Rule of Conflict with the following text:
> If a Judgement Procedure as defined by the rules determines that two or more 
> rules are in conflict and that it it not clear from the rules which of them 
> should take precedence, the entity which initiated that Judgement Procedure 
> may create and publically present a Conflict Resolution Roadmap.
>   A Conflict Resolution Roadmap is a document which describes changes to the 
> rules intended solely to remove the conflict in question. Once a CRR has 
> been presented, the changes it describes will take effect on the rules. Any 
> changes described by a Conflict Resolution Roadmap which have effects other 
> than to resolve the conflict the Roadmap was created to address will not be 
> applied and the creator of the Roadmap will be guilty of the crime of 
> Deviousness.
> 
> Ayes: JJ, dok, adam, Mike, Stumo, Martin

 Aye
 
> 13: Create a rule named And There Shall Be No Lizardmen, with the following 
> text:
> Any entity which is a member of the List of Voters may cause itself to be 
> immediately removed from the List of Voters by publically announcing itself 
> to be a lizardman from Antares IV. The entity in question is encouraged to 
> use this opportunity to mock the puny humans for their pathetic inability to 
> see the truth until it was too late.
> 
> Ayes: JJ, dok, adam, Mike, Stumo, Martin

 Aye :)
 
> 14: The Law of Total Annihilation
> "Should thirteen paradoxes be discovered to exist simultaneously, the nomic 
> game ends, and the voters must lament having destroyed the universe by 
> trying to be too clever."
> 
> Ayes: dok
> Nay: JJ (pending description of how a paradox is actually defined, 
> especially whether you want it to be only within the rules)

 Aye

> 15: Create a rule named Keeping Up With the Nomeses, with the following 
> text:
> There shall be a role entitled "Data Integrity Consultant" to be filled by a 
> member of the List of Voters, who is to investigate an automatic on-line 
> method of storing and cataloguing Proposals, Counter-Proposals and Consent.  
> This role can later be incorporated into a Committee post if such a body is 
> created.
> 
> Ayes: JJ, Mike, Stumo, dok

 Aye
 
> 
> 16: I'm Not a Window Cleaner
> The entity Mike Cripps shall be the first holder of the role of Data 
> Integrity Consultant, and shall be immediately appointed to that role if it 
> exists when this rule is passed, assuming in both cases that the entity Mike 
> Cripps is a member of the List of Voters
> 
> Ayes: JJ, Mike, Stumo, dok

 Aye

> 17: I propose that I just lost "The Game"
> Ayes: Stumo, Maz, JJ

 Aye
 
> 18: On the Numbering of Proposals
> Each proposal shall be numbered by its proposer. These numbers shall be 
> sequential integers beginning from 1 for the first proposal after this rule. 
> Counter-proposals to a proposal N should be numbered Na, Nb, Nc etc.
> 
> Nay: adam (on the basis that two proposals may be cross-posted with the same 
> number. Workaround counterproposals are invited)
> 
 Nay, ditto.

 J.